That goes back to the late seventies I think when I used to drive to Birmingham from Somerset. Often I was served by Mr. Harrold himself and he demonstrated my first mount cutter. I also bought two guillotines and a wall mounted glass cutter. Lion try harder to get framers what they want- and they try it all out, and describe it' pro's and cons. The only reason you haven't heard much from me for a couple of years is because we were doing huge alterations and rebuilding. I will have been self employed consistently for sixty years in 2019 and I expect Lion has been going just as long?