The Summit Stratos are excellent bibs, and the chamois is among the best of any I've tried. I've been riding these for about 6 years now, though via several pairs. With the light and rather pourus fabric, they don't last as long (but the pad does). I get a local seamstress to sew a pice of cyclling fabric over the rear where the rear of your body typically starts showing as the bibs wear. It works great. Bibs and chamois are very personable, but the Stratos is among the best in my cycling wardrobe. On sale they are a reasonably good buy. At retail, they are a bit too expensive....though no worse than other tip tier bibs.