“I've bought several of these 1963's the panda version and a few off a reputable seagull watch maker in China, all are complete and utter junk, dropped the panda, the crystal fell out, dropped the one from The so called go to guy in china and the back crystal fell out, save your money, Chinese junk..the other 1963 crystal scratched on the first day...avoid all Seagull watches..”