“I always get slow shipping form Seedsman,But I germed 2 and 2 rose. The plants took off out of the gate. I gave them 4 weeks for veg but I had to cut the time to 3 weeks because they grew to fast at 3 feet I switched to flower. But I did not see any flower so I use Mammoth p on day 3 and look out. 2 days later they looked like 2 of flower They are in week 1 of flower still 7 weeks to go and some days. She keeps me on my toes!”