“Been riding it for a week survived me trying for 40 min on a double whip off a steep 5 stair it’s so light it’s insain it feels lighter then my prodigy s8 deck and when I put everything on it there was a difference with whips there really nice foot space on the 23 length is honestly worth it really dosnt make a deffrence with the way whips come around and locking into feebles or smiths especially 50-50 grinds are amazing you can run 110 just add the spacers you get with the deck it looks absolutely magnificent and a great street deck manuals are so nice with the added foot space you can definitely get more involved with finding you balance point then with any other deck I’ve riding barspins so much easier I have pretty heavy steel t-bars so it adds a little bit on to the front but if your wanting to learn nose manuals or any sort of trick on your front wheel is definitely a bonus and riding for a day you get used to it over all an amazing deck light weight and a lot of foot space”