“They really are perfect joggers. They seem like they would be kinda loose in the picture but they aren't, they're much more thick/durable etc. when compared to Ponto short/pant (if your familiar). Anyway, if your anything like me I'm sure all you really want to know is what size to get. Well...I am 5'6.5" (169/170cm), 147lb and small is perfect. Very tailored fit, durable construction/material.”