Poor product and arrogant customer support. Dye from cycle bib short leaked over my clothes. Despite sending photographic evidence to them at their request, they implied I was wrong and this couldn’t happen as they had done rigorous testing. They also suggested wearing a g- string - which I felt was inappropriate to someone who is nearly 60. I expect to be able to wear whatever underwear I damn well like when I go for a ride and not have it dictated by the dubious quality of my cycling shorts No offer of refund or reimbursement. Will not buy from them again