Purchased Compact Single Display Automatic Watch Winder model: Atom-1BPL/WPLPurchased Automatic Watch winder from Seller There is no specification on the Sellers site that this watch winder is not suitable for Kinetic movement watches Although the winder does rotate normally for an automatic watch, it is insufficient speed to move the Kinetic rotor to charge the battery If I had known this, I would have not purchased this item The Sellers should note this on their website that this watch winder is not for Kinetic watches I try to resolve this with the Seller and wanted to return this product Unfortunately, the 30-day return policy had expired, and the Seller was confrontational and threatened to have my E-bay close my account of I gave bad review Wow ! the last time I looked it is still Australia , the land of free speech ! Nevertheless, I submitted my case direct to EBay customer help. I accessed my account today and the case is listed as closed So, there you have it .......