Any company that knowingly continue to manufacture pies that receive such appalling ongoing reviews deserve to be prosecuted for misrepresentation. It's true - the gravy does smell of beef or chicken but substantial content of either ingredient is missing which is what happens when a manufacturers key objective is to make profits rather than provide good value. When questioned they would no doubt plead that their specification does conform to some standard or other (but only just). Perhaps they should provide a straw for the suckers that buy their pies as 99% of the content would pass thru a straw