tried on a pair of Salomon X ultra trainers in the shop in betws-y-coed. Had the exact same shoe previously and wanted another. they didn't have the green ashphalt I wanted and the very helpful assistant said I could get them on the internet. It turns out you can only get the black/autobahn on the website too. An improvement would be for you to tell me this in the shop so I could have walked away with them then instead of having to then order them and be in for delivery. That said the assistant was very knowledgeable and indeed showed me the a-pro which was even more comfy but lacked the gore-tex liner