Well I wouldn't have said anything one way or the other but you guys reached out to me so to say. It's taking me a little bit of getting used to. I don't feel that I'm able to wear my belt as tight as I was used to. And also again I wouldn't have said anything but I felt that I had ordered coal which on the picture looked like a dark gray which is what I was wanting but in reality it's black and if that's coal then that is fine and that's what I ordered but again I thought it was a dark gray. So really I like the concept a lot and I like that it's American made a lot. And I have recommended them to my sons of which I have six.