I ordered with hayloft several times over several years none of the plants ever survived I used to complain to them and they would send out another batch that didn't survive. I heard these plants are grown all year round at great speeds under glass like a giant factory churning them out 24 hours a day then are packed up to be sent. The only time they see the outside world is when you open them and examine the small weak plants and hope they will make it through which invariably they don't. There's no customer service and hayloft try to buy you off by asking you to take down your reviews of them or offer you "free" plants that also die. The worst company I have come across along with "parkers" who have followed a similar business model for 50 years with no I'll effect for themselves.