Absolute game changer, I have just started riding gravel and always wanted to get these knicks and ride with a tshirt. They have truly changed the way I ride on gravel and are awesome for just commuting with a bar bag. The material I feel is slightly thicker which I can see would be nice for winter. The side pockets are the perfect size. I was worried of my phone falling out while riding but the pockets are super firm so no need to worry about that.