I gave up on T&H some years ago after I began to find their seeds very unreliable as to germination. More recently I received plug plants from Suttons that were useless as they were dried and mostly shaken out of the tray - no packaging at all - see photo. I've recently discovered that several major gardening related companies, including these, are now owned by BVG - The two above plus Dobies, Van Meuwen, Garden gear, Organic Gardening Catalogue, Happy Breaks, Waltons Garden Buildings and Mercia Garden products. Prospective buyers are advised to check reviews of all the above before placing orders.