I’ve been buying these pants for many years. I wait until they go on sale for $9.99. Because, They are not worth more than that. They fade after a few washings. I called him my throwaway pants and they are just fine for working around the house. However, the ones I just purchased have a waistband that is bulky flops over and bunches up. I usually put a keychain holder on my waistband and that is impossible to do with the new pants. I called and asked to speak to a supervisor and was told there was none available but they would return my call. Still waiting these pants are definitely defective and I would like the same deal on the same type of pants I normally buy (where the waistband lays flat instead of bunched up and folded over). The woman, I spoke to said she could not guarantee that. I recorded my conversation.