After looking and reading many reviews on espresso machines I settled on the R58 so I started looking around and found Cliff & Pebble they where offering the R58 at the best price and with a lot of extras including a 3 year warranty and paid shipping both ways, if warranty work was needed. So I call them they offer me knowledge with out any pressure to buy. After hang up the phone I place my order, it was shipped the next day and less then a week later I had my new toy. I had some questions and the ones they could not answer, I was forward to Rocket Espresso and everything was find I just a new user and need to learn R58. I have been enjoying my new R58 and learning what it dose, I have not been using my drip coffee make since I have had my R58 and now I am offing my old coffee maker to one of my kids. Happy days are here.