These things are amazing and soooooooo smooth feeling with just a splash of water. I used these to put a VERY shiny mirror polish on my edges. They clean up any of the feint scratches left after my 800Jis grit diamond pates and leave a very very smooth and shiny bevel. I just REALLY wish they’d get some of the middle grit stones back in stock so I could progress through the grits with ALL Venev stones. I’ve been checking for months and they’re STILL out of stock of so many of them.