I'd like to preface by saying I think all my issues stem from being short. As with all Tomboy X bottoms, had to go up a size (2-4 S->M) because the fit is tight on my thunder thighs. Even these tend to ride down because they're much looser in the waist. If you lack a thigh gap walking in these also makes a loud squeaking sound every step. Have trouble with the seams on the calves kind of rotating around and getting twisted in opposite directions (possibly because of the looser fit there), which isn't uncomfortable but looks stupid. Like, the blue pattern ends up on the back of one leg and the side of the other. And I disagree with the 7/8 classification; I think these are full length unless you're like >5'8". All that aside, they are very well made, with thick fabric that hides underwear lines and quality pockets. Definitely best for cold weather, kinda sweaty in the summer.