I am new to bike packing and this is the third ortlieb product I have purchased. I have recently come back from a 9 day trip using all the equipment. The frame pack fitted well although I had to remove one of my water bottles holders to fit it in. I used it for my nutrition, tubes, tools bike lock etc. The zip was stiff but I presume that’s because it is heavy duty. Was also water proof. Great product.
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