“These are really nice trousers. The fabric is super-soft and of a high quality. They are put together well, too. In the same order I got a pair of J1 straight leg chinos in the same waist and length. These are much more loose and generous in the waist. But with a belt, they will stay up. Just pay attention to "relaxed" in the description because they are quite relaxed. I don't think it's worth returning for the next size down. I've washed and dried them already and -- no wrinkles!”