I recently ordered 4, five packs during their 5 pack frenzy deal. The Olivia's, and Alec Bradley's were nice. The Gurka's, and the Cristoff's were hard as rocks, I could pound nails with these things. Expedited shipping took two weeks and they were not sent with any humidity packs to help keep them stay alive. Most other online sellers send packets! I am now trying to bring them back from the dead in my humidor. I know I didn't pay a lot for them, so that's fortunate. But, what's unfortunate is after a couple of days of placing this order I placed another order as a gift for a friend that costed quite bit more. If I had have waited to see how bad the first shipment came to me, I probably would not have placed the second order. Now I'm stressed out, waiting for an order that should hopefully be hear soon. I really hope I don't turn out to be the idiot I feel like! Thanks, THOMPSONS,