I ordered two short pulley towers. Had some shipping issues and one package came about week late which is ok...but both were pretty damaged. Lots of scratches and chips, and had to do a lot of manipulating, bending, and hammering (with a rubber mallet) with the holes and brackets for the pulleys to get everything to fit and secure right. Overall, I'm disappointed with the condition they arrived in, but they work and I get a good workout with them. Definitely lubricate the pulleys before install. If you don't mind some dings here and there and doing a little extra work to assemble properly, these are good for the price.