At the introductory meeting I pointed out that Joseph had a very soft, quiet voice that I could not hear him... He said his wife would do the instruction. For my first lesson it was Joseph. I was in a very receptive mood, I did not object, expecting Denise to show up and take over. She did not show for instruction. The lesson became most annoying. Had to ask him several times what he had said. Then I quit asking. It made the lesson a negative experience. I had a lot of anger after the lesson. Denise is 100% sales pitch. The experience soured me on TM and all meditation.. Have considered starting over at another TM center.