“I joined up in July 2018 as there was a Cryptonary offer on and I knew I'd wanted to join. Although life was pretty busy at the time I thought I would sign up as it would always be there considering the amount that the course/Telegram had cost and the guys at Astro FX ran it.
At the time there was the online course and Telegram available to members. At one point there was also a monthly podcast that was available for a small monthly fee which I'd signed up to.
However, as of the start 2019 the whole team have been disorganised and in disarray. With online disagreements being aired publicly. The face of Cryptonary left the team as their visions did not align with the other two owners. I personally think it is to do with what is going on with Cryptonary at the moment,
Anyway, the Telegram content has been bit-part and they have recently released a Cryptonary V 2.0. This is now a pay monthly membership with a revamped/new website. The old online course is still available on a website that starts with old.cryptonary (what a way to feel valued after spending the best part of £500 hey). At one point there was a monthly podcast that was available for a small monthly fee which I also signed up to. These stopped during the turmoil but 1 or 2 payments were still taken.
I've been told that the Telegram updates are being discontinued as there's too many non-members in the Telegram and moving over to Discord.
This is fine.
What isn't fine is that Telegram updates are going and the original members (unless signed up after Jan 2019) are being left behind. We are not being migrated over to the new Discord for the market updates and content that we have become accustomed to (as that is now deemed pay monthly content). The Telegram is simply going, with the Discord being for new members only.
Whilst new members may very well be happy with the packages, the content and how it's all delivered (as it is going to be all they will know), the original 'early adopter' Cryptonary members can't help but feel hard done by.
Do I regret buying the course, yes. In honesty I could have had access to the course without signing up. I just liked knowing I could have the real-time updates and insights of a successful trader pinging up on my phone. But it appears that is soon to be all in the past”
“DO NOT WASTE YOUR MONEY. the course is the most basic thing that you can dedicate your time to it. least thing that you can find on youtube is better than what you get here.”
“STAY AWAY, course very basic and not worth the money. Was promised lifetime membership and updates with purchase, but then they switched to monthly subscription model and existing members had to pay more or accept they got scammed. Very questionable marketing tactics (only post wins, write and LIE that a potential customer has been "especially selected" to join) plus they delete bad comments and block people. Stay away, there are much better alternatives available and what they offer, you can find for free online with a bit of search. Nothing special at all”
“DO NOT BUY.
~~~ New changes to the cryptonary course in 2019, after they had a huge falling out with the main content provider 'Toray' leaving the business.
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The course when I purchased it (2018) was advertised as a 'lifetime membership', however, with the new changes that are being made cryptonary is now being turned into a MONEY GRAB monthly subscription - my guess because of expanding their staff size too fast and now deciding it is members who need to pick up the $ slack due to expanding both content and staff in an unsustainable way. Going back on your 'lifetime membership' promise just shows how immoral this company is - not worth the investment.
I am extremely disappointed in how the company has gone about these changes and most importantly, not valuing their existing members at all. Unless recognition to existing members is made these decisions has lost you my recognition as 'the leading provider of crypto news and content' along with any future business with you”
“Not worth the money. Very basic information which you can easily find online. Everything I learned is on the internet within reach.
Podcasts are not included where the majority of the analysis and fundamental news are talked about. Few updates a week. Sometimes an article from 1-2 days old (nothing new).
Good course for beginners with absolutely zero knowledge. But nothing for someone who actually did some research.”
“Hi Cryptonary,
As a genuine member who had joined the team in early February, here are my two cents on the current scheme of things. Having spent a significant chunk of my savings to become a member, I went over all videos in the course to gain a better understanding of the crypto market back then. I had begun investing in cryptocurrencies in September 2017, so it was before the massive bull run kicked off. Once joined, things went smoothly. You would speak regularly on the likes of Ark, Neo, Iota and various other projects (including the new calls). It's been ages since I even heard these names from the VIP Telegram group. I regularly review these sites myself- eg. visiting here to check progress on their roadmap - https://ark.io/roadmap.
However, it is my opinion that things have taken a turn for now. With over 5000 members in the VIP telegram (around 3 million US in course earnings alone ! - assuming the number of members is correct though), Cryptonary is now adding additional podcasts and day trading courses. Firstly, why introduce the podcast when there were voice notes for the telegram group. As mentioned earlier, not all members in the telegram group are genuine - so why not simply move to a different platform altogether, or create a new group for which the link is not shareable. Additionally, regarding the day trading course, I'm not sure where did the idea of that come from. There are several great traders out there, in all markets (Fx, Stocks, Futures etc), and we all look to trade, but if you're going to develop a community, believe me, forget these additional courses or podcast that acts like pay per view and go all out - boom- straight faced content development - adding additional lessons to website for members - talking about the calls givens, their current scope, practical use etc. Hope to see some improvements on the member's side. We can work together to remove bogus members from the telegram chat, that is if we are on the same side ;) !”
“The course is very brief, I don't think it is worth the money in the slightest bit, contrary to popular belief I think the Telegram is great. I really think Cryptonary should focus more on short-term trades instead of just saying over and over again that "this is the perfect time to buy." Looking at it from a long-term perspective (5 years) I would agree that buying BTC at 8K or 10k doesn't make much of a difference, but for anyone (most of us) who are trying to profit on a weekly or monthly basis by swing trading, we're in for a rough f***ing time.
I took your "second call" and I'm down 3k... It seems to me like if you knew BTC was going to fall lower and all of the altcoins follow the movements of BTC, why wouldn't you just wait for BTC to fall to lower levels before making the "second call"? Seems really weird to me but I took it and I am still holding on to it because I trust you know the market better than I ever could.
A LOT of people are putting their hopes and future into your hands and I think you should guide us on how to make shorter-term trades to make enough profits to keep the lights on. Not just sell us the future of cryptocurrency and continue to say "it's always the best time to buy."
This is the main reason why so many of us bought your course, a lot of us saved for weeks if not months to be able to make the investment only to be disappointed by what we found inside.
I don't want you to take this review as a personal attack towards you, just improve what you're doing and let us in on shorter-term trades. I'd rather take small risks on multiple short trades than be down 50%-80% for months on end hoping that the bull run will start. I need a combination of both, I think I speak for a large majority of your members when I say this.”
“The course is very brieft. He used indicators that doesn’t share with the members, missing targets very often and I can’t trust him anymore due to losing money over believing his word”
“The “Cryptonary” is a straight scam!! He makes the telegram seem like something it’s not. The “calls” are just indecisive predictions, he picks two different options & which ever one that ends up being right he post to social media over & over... anyone saying otherwise is just trying to gain exposure by his retweets SAVE YOUR MONEY”
I would normally disregard these messages but as you're a verified member I will take the time to rectify this malicious message as it appears very clearly you haven't understood how I work and why I do not provide direct "buy now and sell now" 'signals' in 1 direction, surprisingly it's for my own members benefit.
Firstly, the standard and generic term of a "scam" is:
"a dishonest scheme; a fraud." - Transparency and honesty is something I abide by without fail, a simple browse of my social media profiles & VIP Telegram will be enough to present this. I openly state what is provided.
Anybody who follows me and my loyal members base know I would never give direct buy or sell orders, because most importantly, that is outright illegal. Secondly, the Cryptocurrency market is the most volatile market in the world, where my predictions come through over 90% of the time and have never failed to break below this figure since Cryptonary was founded. Price will inevitably swing in the opposite direction during the short-term, which is expected in a market that jumps 10's of percent in a single day.
Cryptonary is founded upon long-term investment principles, hence why I do not feature daytrading content within the course. This is to protect members from trying to time a market so volatile and dangerous as many have no experience in such markets. You will notice many times when I give a long-term target, price will do quite the opposite over a period of a few days or even a week, the VIP Telegram provides the safety barriers as what you described as "indecisive" because many would go in the similar intentions as yourself, expecting price to directly head in that direction. Without fail, almost every single time after the market has finished being a victim of manipulation, my targets are met and members have made very good profits because they accepted the factors of this volatile market and used the levels in the VIP Telegram to avoid them.
Being a professional trader means adapting as fast as the market does, if not, before it can do its next move. Something I strive upon and focus on daily, therefore, if the market changes its directional bias, I do to, so nobody ends up losing money.
The problem with this industry is that it has become a playground for REAL scammers to lurk and sell dreams of "signal services" (baring in mind illegal), as an easy means for people to get rich by simply doing nothing except following the uneducated calls of others who have no given proof of experience or skill in this market.
My principles are a little more, classy, so to speak. I not only provide every single critical indicator and factor that will affect the market, but I also provide these with full 20minute or longer video breakdowns on the charts, voicenotes & screenshots to further compliment this.
I teach my students to work in line with my analysis & work so they learn the craft that will pay them for a lifetime in all other financial markets also. Unfortunately 99% of this industry relies on these 'experts' who prefer to tell you "buy here" or "sell now" only for you to have learnt absolutely nothing and lose all of your money in the process as you slowly realise none are as educated as you originally were led to believe. Once these companies dissapear you're back to stage 0, with no knowledge and a new found dependancy to find a better "signal provider".
I prefer to work professionally and do what I do best, educate, grow & adapt my members to learn a skill that will feed them for the rest of their lives.
