“Due to Waves notorious “version updates” even a perpetual license for their audio plugins where you think you permanently own them is actually leasing the software from them if you wanted it to work for more than a year
And no I don’t expect free updates on software forever .. but it should last for more than a year
The plugins rarely add any new features after the “updates” it’s the Waves “shell” that gets updated
This is the utter definition of “planned obsolescence” of making something on purpose that doesn’t have longevity so you have to keep on buying it
In user experience design we call this deceptive technique a dark pattern
Would be interesting if other musicians got together for a class action lawsuit.”
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“Worst Music Investment Ever: WAVES Plugins
Waves has essentially turned into an extortion business with their so-called "Waves Update Plan." Here’s how it works:
1 Forced Upgrades: Waves forces users to repurchase plugins yearly under their Update Plan. Without this, your DAW (e.g., Pro Tools) may stop working with the plugins, leaving you no choice but to upgrade—or completely uninstall unsupported plugins.
2 Major Security Risks: If you don't update your operating system to avoid Waves issues, you risk compromising your system’s security.
3 Plugins Held Hostage: Your older plugins become useless without the Update Plan. Even if they worked fine before, Waves locks you into their scheme.
4 No Reselling or Sharing: You can’t sell, trade, or gift your plugins. Waves’ Update Plan essentially holds your old plugins hostage.
5 Incompatibility Issues: Most plugins I’ve owned for over 5-10 years and they all still work on the latest operating systems—except Waves. They’re the only ones that fail without constant upgrades.
6 Pushed Toward Subscriptions: Waves seems to push users into their subscription model, implying that’s the only way to avoid these problems.
7 Misleading Perpetual Licenses: Waves’ "perpetual" licenses aren’t truly perpetual. After a year, if you don’t renew the Update Plan, the plugins may no longer work and will even disrupt your DAW from loading.
This is my honest experience, and I hope it helps others avoid wasting their money like I did. I wish someone had explained how Waves' perpetual licenses actually work before I started purchasing.
To anyone considering Waves perpetual products: think twice.”
“Worst Music Investment Ever: WAVES Plugins
Waves has essentially turned into an extortion business with their so-called "Waves Update Plan." Here’s how it works:
1 Forced Upgrades: Waves forces users to repurchase plugins yearly under their Update Plan. Without this, your DAW (e.g., Pro Tools) may stop working with the plugins, leaving you no choice but to upgrade—or completely uninstall unsupported plugins.
2 Major Security Risks: If you don't update your operating system to avoid Waves issues, you risk compromising your system’s security.
3 Plugins Held Hostage: Your older plugins become useless without the Update Plan. Even if they worked fine before, Waves locks you into their scheme.
4 No Reselling or Sharing: You can’t sell, trade, or gift your plugins. Waves’ Update Plan essentially holds your old plugins hostage.
5 Incompatibility Issues: Most plugins I’ve owned for over 5-10 years and they all still work on the latest operating systems—except Waves. They’re the only ones that fail without constant buying upgrades after you own the Wavs perpetual licenses already. after buying your plugin you are force to pay to keep using it.
6 Pushed Toward Subscriptions: Waves seems to push users into their subscription model, implying that’s the only way to avoid these problems.
7 Misleading Perpetual Licenses: Waves’ "perpetual" licenses aren’t truly perpetual. After a year, if you don’t renew the Update Plan, the plugins may no longer work and will even disrupt your DAW from loading.
This is my honest experience, and I hope it helps others avoid wasting their money like I did. I wish someone had explained how Waves' perpetual licenses actually work before I started purchasing.
To anyone considering Waves perpetual products: think twice.”
“Waves is the worst. Their prices may seem reasonable at first, but they constantly "update" and re-release their plugins to new versions which you will conveniently don't have the license for... meanwhile, nothing was actually updated. The plugins have literally been the exact same since the early 2000's. Such a scam.
Good luck installing the legacy versions you do have the license for, by the way. They stop supporting them, and they've made the process insanely complicated and filled with bugs, so in effect, they force you to re-purchase the same plugin over and over. They're currently on V15 of doing this as of late 2024. 15! lol
Not only that but the plugins aren't even that good anymore. They were top of the line in the early 2000's, but most of them haven't even changed since then.
If you go to their site, literally every plugin is rated a 4.8 or 4.9 stars... pretty sure most of those reviews are fake and/or they don't publish the negative ones because there's more than a few duds in their collection that are 5.0 star reviewed. Makes no sense.
There's a few workhorses in their lineup, like the L2... but honestly, you can get way better plugins these days from other companies that are more ethical. SoundToys, FabFilter, Steven Slate and UA are all miles better than Waves. Go there.”
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“Waves - after trying without success the system of only making their plugins work is through a "Third Party" - AND THAT SUCKS. DON'T WASTE YOU MONEY BUYING WAVES. Izotope RS9 o 10 is light years ahead of waves and once you invest it's your's and is far superior - no "Third Party" involved and infinately provides greater scope in post production work. Equally Audacity as a budget option is also light years ahead of WAVES. Waves is a finacial con DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY ON IT. I
RATED IT 1 STAR BUT ONLY BECAUSE IT WAS THE ONLY WAY TO ACCESS THE COMMENT SECTION IT TRULY IS NOT WORTH ANY STARS.”
“Forced to pay twice from a product I already owned! I feel like i have been scammed by a conman! I will never be buying anything from Waves Audio again. Don't believe the sales prices, they are a scam and a trap to force you to pay more money further down the line.
I'll be buying everything from UAD Audio from now on”
“very bad licinse software. i think the worse i had to work with.
bought 2 plug ins and its not possible to change the install folder. i made another folder for plug in. i spoke with their technical support and they told me i have nothing to do and theres no refund!
Not recommended at all!”
“Once you buy a hardware, nobody informs you that delay time varies between 4-6 weeks (to reduce shipping costs they say). You pay 15 US$ (much more than any other shipping company) and you can wait and wait and wait. When you ask for a refund, cause you consider it as a scam, they don't leave you. So, PLEASE, be aware with Waves Audio.”
“When recently buying a plugin bundle, I very soon thereafter realised I would need to upgrade and get another bundle to get the plugins I wanted. Since I had made the purchase recently, they credited me the full amount of the first purchase and manually invoiced me the difference to the bundle I really wanted.
That's the kind of service that you sadly enough cannot count on getting from software companies anymore, but is greatly appreciated once you get it. Thank you, Waves!”
“I stopped using waves a year ago because of couple of reasons, 1 because of their stupid WUP system, and 2nd because many new companies nowadays have much better plugins than waves, with the same prices.”
