The whole 3G being shut down and switching to a 4/5G device for today's network made things a bit confusing for myself and my dad that till this day has been stuck with a flip from from the 2000's and didnt want to switch to an iphone or any kind of smartphone, he likes to live in the past. Gladly as we stumbled upon electronicsforce while searching for a suitable phone for my dad we managed to find a kyocera flip phone, I placed the order on the website and it came in all in its glory with the factory taping and brand new without its original box, the I would expect a phone that came out back in 2016 not to be in a new box anymore. But anyhow I'm happy that I have my quit time from my dad bugging me about verizon and their new network, and in overall happy that I made business with electronicsforce. It was quick and easy and in appreciated them highly!